Payne: But silver was the important thing, wasn’t it?
Payne: A girl had to have her silver.
Ray: Yes … yes. (laughter)
Payne: Do you still use your Strasburg?
Ray: I have it but I don’t use it much. I use on occasion.
Payne: Do you put it in the dishwasher?
Payne: No. You hand wash it?
Payne: And you still in that house?
15:19 Payne: So, did you cook a lot?
Ray: Well, not too much. I started baking cakes … made cakes and sold them and give the money to the Methodist youth.
Payne: What kind of cakes?
Ray: Cream cheese pound cakes.
Ray: I raised a hundred thousand dollars for them.
Payne: You what?
Ray: I raised a hundred thousand dollars for the youth … over a twenty year period.
Payne: Selling cakes?
Ray: Hard to believe?