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Ray:  No.  I had retired then.

Payne:  So, you made this money after you retired?

Ray:  After I retired. (laughter)

Payne:   Well, I certainly am glad we chose Union county.  (laughter)  That is … that’s amazing.  That’s wonderful.  I’m impressed.  I mean as you can tell, I’m impressed.

Dionne:  For the youth at the Methodist …

Ray:  For the youth at the Methodist church.

Payne:  So, how did they spend that money?

Ray:  They took mission trips and … um … made trips to Disney World.  Different places.  I went with them on some of them.

18:12   Payne:  Did you?  (laughter) I was about to ask you about that.  So you were very committed to the Methodist church, obviously.  So, what was it about the Methodist church that you liked so much?

Ray:  My father was a Methodist preacher for one thing.  And I just liked it.  It’s a good church.  What church do you go to?

Payne:  Well, I go to the Episcopal church now, but I grew up as a Methodist and in many ways I remain Methodist and my great-great-grandfather was a circuit rider.

Ray:  Oh, is that right?

Payne:  Yes, so I’m very loyal to the Methodist church.  Extremely … I like its service orientation.

Ray:  Do you know Brother Warren Black?  Brother Warren Black?

Payne:  Oh, yes.  I do.  He’s the minister there.  I know most of the Methodist ministers.  I know Roy Ryan, as well.

Ray:  I know who he is.

Payne:  And Holloway. Do you remember Bo Holloway?

Ray:  Halloman.

Payne:  Halloman.  That’s right.

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