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Payne:  Yes, I can imagine.  How do you spell that … I’m trying to …

Ray:  C-h-a-l-y-b-e-a-t-e.

21:30   Payne:  I’ll have to look on the map and see if I can find that.  I know where Walnut is.  Where was your mother from?

Ray:  She was from Arkansas, although she was born out here in Union County.

Payne:  Where in Arkansas?

Ray:  Fayetteville.  Fayetteville.

Payne:  Yes.  I’ve lived there.  I’ve lived in Fayetteville.

Ray:  But she was born out here  at  Graham, Mississippi.

Payne:  Yes.

Ray:  And the town was named for her father.  He had the first post office there.

22:02   Payne:  Well, what kind of work did you do for soil conservation?

Ray:  I was a clerk, you know stenographer.

Payne:  And if you started working that early, you must have been there through the whole transformation of soil conservation.

Ray:  Yes.

Payne:  What kinds of changes did you see that interested you most over time?

Ray:  Well, we just about did away with gulleys.  You know gulleys were really bad back then.  The soil was washing away and we stabilized the soil.

Payne:  With kudzu?

Ray:  Yes.  (laughter).  And it took over.  (laughter).  Now we can’t rid of it.

Payne:  But there were a lot of gulleys …

Ray:  Especially Marshall County.

Payne:  So, the office you worked out of served Marshall County as well as Union? Other counties?

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