Payne: Yes, I can imagine. How do you spell that … I’m trying to …
21:30 Payne: I’ll have to look on the map and see if I can find that. I know where Walnut is. Where was your mother from?
Ray: She was from Arkansas, although she was born out here in Union County.
Payne: Where in Arkansas?
Ray: Fayetteville. Fayetteville.
Payne: Yes. I’ve lived there. I’ve lived in Fayetteville.
Ray: But she was born out here at Graham, Mississippi.
Ray: And the town was named for her father. He had the first post office there.
22:02 Payne: Well, what kind of work did you do for soil conservation?
Ray: I was a clerk, you know stenographer.
Payne: And if you started working that early, you must have been there through the whole transformation of soil conservation.
Payne: What kinds of changes did you see that interested you most over time?
Ray: Well, we just about did away with gulleys. You know gulleys were really bad back then. The soil was washing away and we stabilized the soil.
Payne: With kudzu?
Ray: Yes. (laughter). And it took over. (laughter). Now we can’t rid of it.
Payne: But there were a lot of gulleys …
Ray: Especially Marshall County.
Payne: So, the office you worked out of served Marshall County as well as Union? Other counties?