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Ray:  No.

Payne:  No?

Ray:  Her grandmother and my grandfather were first cousins.  So, I don’t know what that makes us.

02:58   Payne:  So, when you came here, how did your mother provide for you?

Ray:  Not very well.  It was … we were very poor.  

Payne:  Yes.

Ray:  Because my father had just died.  And he was a Methodist preacher.  And so, we didn’t have a whole lot to begin with.  And so, things were cheap here.  She just worked hard.  She worked at a dry goods store for about seventy-five cents a day back then … and she made those dollars stretch.

Payne:  How did she stretch them?

Ray:  We just didn’t have much.  

03:44   Payne:  Seventy-five cents a day is not very much (Ray: No.) to support you and were there brothers and sisters too?

Ray:  Two sisters.

Payne:  So, it was three girls.  

Ray:  And the grocery bill was just about eighteen dollars a month.  Everything was cheap then after the depression.

Payne:  But that still wasn’t … if she was making only seventy-five cents, eighteen dollars is a lot of money.

Ray:  It really was.  She had to stretch it.  She just … she worked hard.  And she didn’t go to the grocery store to get biscuits, she made them.  

Payne:  But still … lets see, seventy-five cents a day gives her … three, three seventy-five a week.

Ray:  But she had a little insurance money from my daddy’s death.

Payne:  I see.

Ray:  So, she stretched it pretty tight.

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