Payne: So, did everybody in New Albany have a cow?
Ray: I don’t know about everybody but a lot of them did.
Payne: Lots of folks had cows?
Ray: Well, they didn’t drive cars back then, they couldn’t afford to run cars. We didn’t have a car. Gasoline was fifteen cents a gallon but we couldn’t afford it.
Ray: If we’d had a car, we couldn’t have afforded it.
Payne: Sure. Well, if you’re making seventy-five cents a day, fifteen cents would have been a big part of your salary wouldn’t it … of your income?
Ray: Yes. But she had that insurance … a little insurance that she stretched pretty tight.
Payne: So, did she get the insurance all at one time, or did it come ever …
Ray: Yes. All at one time after my father died.
Payne: And this was before Social Security?
Ray: Oh, yes.
Payne: So, she wouldn’t have gotten Social Security from your father’s death? Just what the Methodist church provided?
Ray: Yes, she got a little pension from the Methodist church.
Payne: Oh, she did. OK.
Ray: It wouldn’t much but she got some.
Payne: Yes, well … the nineteen thirties were tough weren’t they?
Ray: They sure were (laughter)
Payne: So …
Ray: But we didn’t know we were poor.
Payne: Did … So, you went to Memphis in nineteen thirty-nine and you, you came back to New Albany in nineteen forty?