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Joe: “Let me summarize what you’ve told me. Due to financial pressures weighing on you such as credit card debt, medical bills, and having a daughter in college, you set up two companies--Specialist Supply and Construction Supply Company--to generate some extra money. When you initially set up the companies, you intended to actually provide some labor and materials for the payments received, but for one reason or another, you ended up providing little or no materials and labor. The amount you took in this manner totaled about $65,000--with your out-of-pocket costs equaling about $1,000. You knew what you were doing was wrong but didn’t consider it to be that big a deal. Is my summary of the situation accurate?” Steve: “....Yes.” Analysis: Since Joe will be converting the content of the “admission-seeking” interview into a written statement to be signed by Steve, it is important to get all the facts straight. Moreover, there is no such thing as an “accidental” or “unintentional” fraud. For this reason, Steve must be willing to acknowledge that he knew that what he did was wrong and the written statement must unambiguously communicate this. Notice the absence of the words “steal” or “fraud” in Joe’s summary. The use of such inflammatory terms makes the subject less likely to sign the written “statement of admission.” Instead of condemning the subject for his/her behavior, allow the subject to “save face” by focusing on the fraudulent act rather than the person. This can be accomplished by establishing the motivation for the fraud. Verbally acknowledge to the subject that you understand s/he was under heavy financial pressure which motivated him or her to do something “out of character.” Such an attitude will greatly increase the chances of obtaining a signed “statement of admission” from the subject. The signed statement will greatly facilitate the employee dishonesty insurance claim and any criminal or civil action resulting from the case. Joe: “Here’s my card, let me know if you think of anything else which might be relevant to this situation. Is there anything else you’d like to say?” Steve: “Yeah,...What’s going to happen now?” Joe: “I’m going to put together a written statement for you to sign tomorrow. I’ll drop by your office about 9:00 a.m. if that’s OK with you. (Steve nods agreement) Then I will report my findings to Robert, the owner of the company, and it will be his decision Interviewing as a ‘Forensic-Type’ Procedure

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