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FM: Twice.

MC: When were they?

FM: The last major flu outbreak we had was in 2002 I think. You might want to double-check that.

MC: I think that’s what the paper said.

FM: Yeah, okay. I didn’t even read the paper today. 197 farms were depopulated in this area.

MC: By this area, you mean?

FM: Rockingham, Augusta County.

MC: Okay. All right. Sorry to interrupt.

FM: That’s fine.

MC: I wanted to clarify.

FM: The avian flu is a virus that the government, the USDA is afraid can mutate into people. And when they contact certain strains of it they automatically are killed on the farm and that’s for your protection.  That is I guess one of the beauties of raising turkeys in confinement, if we have a problem, we can regulate it. You’ve read a lot about avian flu in other parts of the world that they were afraid was going to mutate. Back to Vietnam where everybody has got 10 chickens, they’re running wild, the way they do. They can’t control it. We’ve always been able to control it in the country and it has never mutated to people to cause a problem.

MC: So describe, if you would describe a little bit about when the avian flu outbreak happened. Did it happen on your farm?

FM: Yes.

MC: Did you have to have the turkeys killed?

FM: Yes.

MC: How did you deal with that?

FM: Well, you don’t deal with it. When this happens, the USDA comes in and they take charge. You have no control. It’s pretty sad. It’s pretty sad. Like I said in 2002 197 farms were depopulated. I had five houses that were depopulated. They come in and kill them. They were loaded out and my birds were about fifteen weeks old, which means they

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