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apartheid government affected the people, and maybe how to do this instead of doing that?

KN:Oh yes I mean throughout his banning I mean they used to go underground and meet the people and have meetings.  I mean he wasn’t just sitting at home doing nothing. I mean the people used to, you know, to my understanding - used to go I mean even coming to the rooms the political colleagues used to come there maybe posing as patients or something and discussing things.  But he used to attend meetings also underground without the Special Branch being there, he used to be taken over there so he was, he was active all the time.  And ja, I know he did carry on with his work, even while he was banned, while being banned.

DS:Okay I just want to find whether did he have any contact with Mahatma Gandhi?

KN:Mahatma Gandhi, yes. They went to India; himself and Dadoo went to India; I can’t remember the date now in the fifties I think, was it?  Ja and he met him, Mahatma Gandhi and Nehru also, to get support for the cause of the struggle against apartheid, which they did, which they get support from them.  So he did meet him there.

DS:Only in that time?

KN:Ja only in that time.

DS:Okay.

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