KN:Well apparently it did start with some - whether it was a rumour or it’s a fact that a young African boy was either killed or beaten up in the Grey Street business area. And after that they rioted against the Indian businesses, and the Indian people in general.
DS:Okay would you like to tell us about the your father's involvement in Natal Indian Congress as well as South African Indian Congress. I believe he was the president of both the parties.
KN:Ja he took over presidency in the Natal Indian Congress I think it was 1945. But that is from - I think it was PR Pather and AI Kajee. They apparently had a big meeting in
Curries Fountain and the previous committee had accepted the partial Indian representation in parliament, which meant that they would have had white members in parliament representing Indians, which my father was totally against. And that was only for Indians, nothing for Africans, of course, and in 1945 they took over the presidency of the NIC, you know, about the same time Dadoo took over the presidency of the Transvaal Indian Congress in Johannesburg. I'm not sure when he became president of the South African Indian Congress, I can have a look at it. I must look it up.